<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Aurum et plus: Histoire]]></title><description><![CDATA[Histoire de l'épargne en métaux précieux et des produits en ces mêmes métaux.]]></description><link>https://aurumetplus.substack.com/s/histoire</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4mnB!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5cf09548-e44d-43ab-9190-8da00b662139_270x270.gif</url><title>Aurum et plus: Histoire</title><link>https://aurumetplus.substack.com/s/histoire</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 19:22:28 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://aurumetplus.substack.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Yannick COLLEU]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[fr]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[aurumetplus@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[aurumetplus@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Yannick]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Yannick]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[aurumetplus@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[aurumetplus@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Yannick]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[QUEL EST LE (VÉRITABLE) STOCK D’OR DES FRANÇAIS ? ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Publi&#233; sur le site OR.FR par Thomas Andrieu | 17 f&#233;vr.]]></description><link>https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/quel-est-le-veritable-stock-dor-des</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/quel-est-le-veritable-stock-dor-des</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Yannick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 15:34:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publi&#233; sur le <a href="https://or.fr/actualites/veritable-stock-dor-francais-3666">site OR.FR</a> par <a href="https://or.fr/auteur/thomas-andrieu">Thomas Andrieu</a> | 17 f&#233;vr. 2026</p><p>Dans <a href="https://librairie.bod.fr/lor-des-francais-yannick-colleu-9782322541430">son livre </a><em><a href="https://librairie.bod.fr/lor-des-francais-yannick-colleu-9782322541430">L&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais</a></em>, paru en 2024, Yannick Colleu propose une relecture du v&#233;ritable stock d&#8217;or d&#233;tenu par les Fran&#231;ais. Entre guerres, d&#233;mon&#233;tisations, exportations et reventes, le stock d&#8217;or r&#233;ellement d&#233;tenu par les Fran&#231;ais demeure une inconnue. Des ordres de grandeur se d&#233;gagent malgr&#233; tout des principaux &#233;v&#233;nements ayant concouru &#224; l&#8217;&#233;volution du stock d&#8217;or depuis plus de deux si&#232;cles.</p><p>Tandis que les Fran&#231;ais ont achet&#233; pr&#232;s de 240 tonnes d&#8217;or au cours des quinze derni&#232;res ann&#233;es, &#224; peine 9 % de ces achats ont &#233;t&#233; r&#233;alis&#233;s sous forme de <a href="https://or.fr/produits/acheter-or">pi&#232;ces et de lingots</a>, d&#8217;apr&#232;s le World Gold Council. En r&#233;alit&#233;, les Fran&#231;ais auraient m&#234;me &#233;t&#233; vendeurs d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement en 2024. De plus, l&#8217;app&#233;tit des Fran&#231;ais pour l&#8217;or reste mod&#233;r&#233;, puisque leurs voisins allemands ou britanniques en demandent jusqu&#8217;&#224; 2,5 fois plus.</p><p>Dans ce contexte, comment d&#233;finir et estimer le stock d&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais &#224; ce jour ? J&#8217;avais d&#233;j&#224; publi&#233; <a href="https://or.fr/actualites/combien-or-detiennent-les-francais-3265">un article</a> sur le sujet il y a quelques ann&#233;es, mais celui-ci propose d&#8217;adopter une approche plus critique, en s&#8217;appuyant notamment sur les travaux de Yannick Colleu.</p><h3>Les origines de l&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais</h3><p>De nombreux Fran&#231;ais l&#8217;ont peut-&#234;tre d&#233;j&#224; oubli&#233;. Pourtant, les pi&#232;ces d&#8217;or &#233;taient bien monnaie courante il y a encore un si&#232;cle. L&#8217;or circulait comme moyen de paiement mais, jusqu&#8217;au milieu du XIX&#7497; si&#232;cle, il occupait encore une place relativement rare dans le quotidien. En r&#233;alit&#233;, la plupart de l&#8217;or &#233;mis sous forme de pi&#232;ces a &#233;t&#233; frapp&#233; sous Louis-Napol&#233;on Bonaparte et sous la III&#7497; R&#233;publique. Au total, entre 1803 et 1921, on estime que les &#233;missions de monnaies atteignent environ 3 500 tonnes d&#8217;or. Plus de 80 % de ces &#233;missions se concentrent entre 1850-1880 (48 %) et 1895-1914 (34 %).</p><p>Paris, en tant que centre majeur du march&#233; aurif&#232;re au <a href="https://www.lbma.org.uk/alchemist/issue-91/banque-de-france-and-gold-past-and-future">XIX&#7497; si&#232;cle</a>, recevait d&#8217;importants flux d&#8217;or en provenance d&#8217;Australie, d&#8217;Afrique du Sud, des &#201;tats-Unis et de Russie, qui alimentaient les r&#233;serves et couvraient les &#233;missions mon&#233;taires. Dans la seconde moiti&#233; du XIX&#7497; si&#232;cle, la France accumulait effectivement des surplus commerciaux avec d&#8217;autres &#201;tats europ&#233;ens permettant la constitution d&#8217;un stock d&#8217;or significatif. De fait, la France repr&#233;sentait alors jusqu&#8217;&#224; plus de 80 % de la monnaie en circulation de l&#8217;Union latine, le lointain anc&#234;tre de l&#8217;euro.</p><p>L&#8217;accumulation de l&#8217;or en France r&#233;sulte donc essentiellement de l&#8217;exploitation de nouveaux gisements aurif&#232;res et de la puissance commerciale du pays durant la seconde moiti&#233; du XIX&#7497; si&#232;cle. L&#8217;or a &#233;t&#233; abandonn&#233; par la France en 1936, dans le sillage de la Grande-Bretagne et des &#201;tats-Unis quelques ann&#233;es plus t&#244;t, et sous la pression de d&#233;valuations devenues continues. &#192; la fin des ann&#233;es 1930, la France d&#233;tenait un stock exceptionnel qui repr&#233;sentait alors pr&#232;s de 10 % du stock mondial d&#8217;or officiel. La Banque de France aurait ainsi d&#233;tenu jusqu&#8217;&#224; pr&#232;s de 4 800 tonnes d&#8217;or dans ses coffres vers 1933, contre environ 2 400 tonnes aujourd&#8217;hui.</p><h3>Comptabilit&#233; historique du stock d&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais</h3><p>D&#8217;apr&#232;s Yannick Colleu, <em>&#171; la r&#233;ponse &#224; l&#8217;interrogation sur le volume maximum de l&#8217;&#233;pargne en or du public fran&#231;ais peut donc se r&#233;sumer en 2024 par ces trois r&#233;ponses : entre 600 et 700 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises ; entre 15 et 20 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or &#233;trang&#232;res ; et un volume inconnu de lingots d&#8217;or &#187;</em>.</p><p>En effet, aux 3 700 tonnes d&#8217;or mises en circulation au sein du public entre 1803 et les ann&#233;es 1920, nous devons retirer un peu plus de 800 tonnes de d&#233;mon&#233;tisations officielles. Quant &#224; elles, les exportations d&#233;finitives d&#8217;or sont estim&#233;es &#224; 400 tonnes. Cela porterait donc le stock d&#8217;or &#171; officiel &#187; aux alentours de 1 600 tonnes &#224; cette &#233;poque. La t&#226;che se complique ensuite.</p><p>Les archives de la Banque de France montrent que le stock d&#8217;or de monnaies fran&#231;aises vers 1928 &#233;tait vraisemblablement proche de 1 376 tonnes, auxquelles il faut retirer 726 tonnes de d&#233;mon&#233;tisations jusqu&#8217;en 1960. Cela porte donc le stock th&#233;orique autour de 960 tonnes d&#8217;or pour l&#8217;ann&#233;e 1960.</p><p>En effet, des archives de la Banque de France montrent que l&#8217;encaisse d&#8217;or de monnaies fran&#231;aises d&#233;tenue par la Caisse g&#233;n&#233;rale s&#8217;&#233;levait &#224; 867 tonnes pour 1960, dont 800 tonnes d&#233;tenues par le public. Ce chiffre para&#238;t donc assez coh&#233;rent avec la somme des &#233;missions, des d&#233;mon&#233;tisations et des exportations. La difficult&#233; r&#233;side ensuite dans l&#8217;estimation du frais (usure) subi par ces monnaies depuis plus de 50 ans. Selon les hypoth&#232;ses retenues, l&#8217;auteur estime ainsi que le stock d&#8217;or de monnaies fran&#231;aises et &#233;trang&#232;res potentiellement d&#233;tenues par le public avoisinerait au maximum les 700 tonnes en 2024.</p><p>En r&#233;alit&#233;, ce stock pourrait &#234;tre encore inf&#233;rieur pour deux raisons. Il faut d&#8217;abord consid&#233;rer les &#233;v&#233;nements historiques ayant conduit &#224; des pertes non comptabilis&#233;es de monnaies. Nous devons ensuite int&#233;grer les transactions d&#8217;or r&#233;alis&#233;es par les particuliers &#224; partir des derni&#232;res estimations des monnaies d&#8217;or d&#233;tenues en 1960.</p><h3>Le d&#233;faut des emprunts Russes</h3><p>De nombreux &#233;v&#233;nements ont pu effectivement augmenter les d&#233;mon&#233;tisations officielles. L&#8217;&#233;conomiste L&#233;on Say estime par exemple que la d&#233;faite de 1870 a co&#251;t&#233; &#224; la France, en indemnit&#233;s, pr&#232;s de 300 tonnes d&#8217;or. Mais &#224; cela s&#8217;ajoutent des pertes li&#233;es &#224; des d&#233;sastres financiers.</p><p>La France aurait ainsi perdu une quantit&#233; importante d&#8217;or lors du d&#233;faut de la Russie en 1917. Ces emprunts, tr&#232;s populaires aupr&#232;s des classes moyennes et largement soutenus par la presse, &#233;taient en r&#233;alit&#233; une mauvaise affaire pour pr&#232;s d&#8217;un million de Fran&#231;ais. Jusqu&#8217;&#224; 80 % des emprunts russes auraient &#233;t&#233; souscrits par des Fran&#231;ais, repr&#233;sentant jusqu&#8217;&#224; 9 milliards de francs-or d&#8217;apr&#232;s le recensement de d&#233;cembre 1919, et mobilisant jusqu&#8217;&#224; un quart de l&#8217;&#233;pargne des Fran&#231;ais plac&#233;e &#224; l&#8217;&#233;tranger.</p><p>Il n&#8217;existe pas d&#8217;estimation claire du tonnage ayant &#233;t&#233; d&#233;finitivement perdu par la France. Mais le pr&#233;judice moral a &#233;t&#233; bien r&#233;el. Dans le journal Le D&#233;mocrate de Seine-et-Marne du 24 mai 1922, nous lisons par exemple le cas d&#8217;un suicide par noyade : <em>&#171; le brave papa Rayer, de Jouy-sur-Morin, ne pouvait se consoler de la perte de fonds russes qui avait creus&#233; un vide appr&#233;ciable dans ses petits revenus. Il avait annonc&#233; &#224; diff&#233;rentes reprises que si tout espoir de toucher ses coupons devenait perdu, il en finirait avec l&#8217;existence, ne pouvant se remettre &#224; travailler, &#224; 82 ans &#187;</em>.</p><h3>Les difficult&#233;s des deux Guerres</h3><p>La Premi&#232;re Guerre mondiale marque un premier tournant dans la d&#233;tention de l&#8217;or chez les Fran&#231;ais. Car, &#224; vrai dire, il n&#8217;y a pas de guerre sans monnaie forte. Tandis que la guerre est d&#233;clar&#233;e le 3 ao&#251;t 1914, le cours forc&#233; des billets est instaur&#233; &#224; peine deux jours plus tard, emp&#234;chant ainsi toute convertibilit&#233; des billets en or. D&#232;s 1915, la c&#233;l&#232;bre affiche de l&#8217;affichiste Abel Faivre clamant &#171; VERSEZ VOTRE OR &#187; est imprim&#233;e en masse.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pqyH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg" width="235" height="342.5655976676385" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4a63ff95-2344-42d1-873b-3da3b811b048_343x500.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:500,&quot;width&quot;:343,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:235,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Affiche \&quot;Pour la France - 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Mais ce dernier est largement consomm&#233; face aux d&#233;penses de la guerre, &#224; quoi s&#8217;ajoutent les pertes li&#233;es au d&#233;ficit commercial, qui entra&#238;nent le d&#233;part de pr&#232;s de 900 tonnes.</p><p>Ces billets &#233;tant naturellement insolvables, la d&#233;valuation massive du franc en 1928 ach&#232;ve le retrait de ce stock d&#8217;or aupr&#232;s du public. Alors que le franc germinal correspondait &#224; environ 0,290 gramme d&#8217;or, la nouvelle parit&#233; implicite est proche de 0,065 gramme d&#8217;or, soit une perte de valeur d&#8217;environ 75 &#224; 80 %. La stabilisation du franc a aussi favoris&#233; des achats d&#8217;or par la Banque de France entre 1926 et 1928, estim&#233;s &#224; pr&#232;s de 230 tonnes.</p><p>La Seconde Guerre mondiale impacte &#233;galement le stock d&#8217;or de la France. Des estimations, comme celles de Ren&#233; Pupin, montrent que la Seconde Guerre mondiale a pu favoriser le vol d&#8217;environ 100 tonnes d&#8217;or. Yannick Colleu rappelle encore que les Allemands ont cr&#233;&#233;, d&#232;s leur arriv&#233;e &#224; Paris, une autorit&#233; charg&#233;e de l&#8217;enregistrement de l&#8217;ensemble des &#233;tablissements d&#233;tenant potentiellement de l&#8217;or.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w91W!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b22dbeb-0369-4cfe-add2-72ec36c18578_679x739.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w91W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b22dbeb-0369-4cfe-add2-72ec36c18578_679x739.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em><a href="https://www.groupe-sncf.com/fr/groupe/gouvernance/anciens-presidents/pierre-eugene-fournier">Pierre-Eug&#232;ne Fournier</a>, Gouverneur de la Banque de France (1937-1940)</em></p><p>Mais la fuite du stock d&#8217;or de la Banque de France, miraculeusement organis&#233;e par Pierre Fournier et anticip&#233;e depuis plusieurs ann&#233;es par des fontes de monnaies susceptibles de faciliter son &#233;vacuation, permet de sauver l&#8217;essentiel du stock d&#8217;or public. Ces &#233;pisodes d&#8217;entre-deux-guerres entra&#238;nent au total, d&#8217;apr&#232;s les sources, une fonte d&#8217;or atteignant jusqu&#8217;&#224; 1 330 tonnes sur la p&#233;riode 1934-1948.</p><h3>Stock d&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais : que disent les sondages ?</h3><p>Il existe deux mani&#232;res d&#8217;estimer le stock d&#8217;or du public d&#8217;un pays. La premi&#232;re m&#233;thode consiste &#224; &#171; partir du haut &#187;, c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire &#224; estimer, &#224; partir des chiffres dont nous disposons, le stock d&#8217;or potentiel des Fran&#231;ais. Une deuxi&#232;me m&#233;thode consiste &#224; proc&#233;der par &#171; &#233;chantillonnage &#187;, via des sondages.</p><p>Un sondage d&#8217;<a href="https://www.ipsos.com/fr-fr/metaux-precieux-cest-lor-pour-les-francais">Ipsos</a> en 2014 r&#233;v&#233;lait que 16 % des Fran&#231;ais poss&#232;dent ou ont d&#233;j&#224; poss&#233;d&#233; de l&#8217;or. En particulier, 12 % des Fran&#231;ais d&#233;claraient poss&#233;der de l&#8217;or en 2014. Le sondage r&#233;v&#232;le aussi la dur&#233;e de d&#233;tention particuli&#232;rement longue des acheteurs : 80 % ont re&#231;u de l&#8217;or par h&#233;ritage, et 70 % des d&#233;tenteurs poss&#232;dent de l&#8217;or depuis plus de 10 ans. Il est &#233;galement remarquable que l&#8217;or est d&#233;tenu par toutes les cat&#233;gories sociales, puisque <em>&#171; 10 % des personnes aux revenus modestes poss&#232;dent actuellement de l&#8217;or, 11 % des ouvriers, 12 % des employ&#233;s, 13 % des cadres, 13 % des personnes ayant les revenus les plus &#233;lev&#233;s &#187;</em>.</p><p>Selon l&#8217;hypoth&#232;se que 12 % des Fran&#231;ais d&#233;tiendraient encore aujourd&#8217;hui de l&#8217;or, cela repr&#233;senterait, avec 700 tonnes de monnaies, environ 85 grammes d&#8217;or par personne d&#233;tenant de l&#8217;or, soit l&#8217;&#233;quivalent d&#8217;une douzaine de pi&#232;ces de 20 francs Napol&#233;on. Si ce chiffre peut d&#233;j&#224; para&#238;tre &#233;lev&#233;, il faut n&#233;anmoins rappeler que l&#8217;on ne conna&#238;t ni la quantit&#233; d&#8217;or d&#233;tenue sous forme de bijoux, ni celle d&#233;tenue sous forme de lingots.</p><h3>La demande d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement est toujours faible en France</h3><p>La France est plut&#244;t le mauvais &#233;l&#232;ve en mati&#232;re de consommation d&#8217;or. Depuis 2010, la France aurait ajout&#233; environ 240 tonnes d&#8217;or &#224; son stock selon le World Gold Council, en grande partie sous forme de bijoux. La demande de pi&#232;ces et de lingots &#233;voluerait quant &#224; elle entre des mouvements d&#8217;achats et de ventes. Mais ce chiffre reste assez faible en comparaison avec l&#8217;Allemagne ou le Royaume-Uni, qui auraient respectivement ajout&#233; 1 850 et 500 tonnes d&#8217;or &#224; leur patrimoine sur la m&#234;me p&#233;riode. L&#8217;Allemagne montrerait, quant &#224; elle, une nette pr&#233;f&#233;rence pour l&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement face &#224; la bijouterie.</p><p>En effet, si l&#8217;on estime que le taux de rachat d&#8217;or annuel est proche de 2 %, il est possible d&#8217;&#233;valuer le stock de pi&#232;ces et de lingots disponibles chez les Fran&#231;ais. Ce taux impliquerait un renouvellement du stock tous les 50 ans, et serait assez coh&#233;rent avec l&#8217;id&#233;e que 80 % des Fran&#231;ais re&#231;oivent de l&#8217;or en h&#233;ritage (par cons&#233;quent, 20 % de l&#8217;or changerait de main par g&#233;n&#233;ration sur une vingtaine d&#8217;ann&#233;es).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Sot1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F403ec03b-2cb8-4e5c-8351-21a3421a3011_1018x556.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Sot1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F403ec03b-2cb8-4e5c-8351-21a3421a3011_1018x556.png 424w, 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Si l&#8217;on applique le m&#234;me raisonnement aux bijoux, avec un flux moyen de 15 tonnes par an par exemple, cela porterait le stock sous forme de bijoux &#224; 700 ou 800 tonnes. Nous retrouverions alors des ordres de grandeur proches de ceux d&#233;velopp&#233;s par Yannick Colleu, &#224; la diff&#233;rence que cet or serait tr&#232;s largement sous forme de bijoux. Ce point reste une inconnue particuli&#232;rement embarrassante.</p><p>N&#233;anmoins, ce raisonnement tr&#232;s th&#233;orique pr&#233;sente une faiblesse. Hormis des transactions qui seraient plus fr&#233;quentes chez les voisins allemands ou britanniques, cela impliquerait que des pays comme l&#8217;Allemagne ou le Royaume-Uni disposeraient d&#8217;un stock d&#8217;or priv&#233; de deux &#224; quatre fois sup&#233;rieur &#224; celui de la France.</p><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>Si nous connaissons le stock d&#8217;or de la Banque de France, autour de 2 400 tonnes, celui d&#233;tenu par le public fran&#231;ais demeure difficilement estimable. La fin de la convertibilit&#233; en or, puis l&#8217;abandon d&#233;finitif de l&#8217;&#233;talon-or en 1971, ont mis un terme au suivi r&#233;gulier des stocks en circulation. Malgr&#233; tout, la reconstitution des grands &#233;v&#233;nements historiques permet d&#8217;affiner ces estimations.</p><p>Dans son ouvrage <em>L&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais</em>, Yannick Colleu estime ainsi le stock d&#8217;or maximal d&#233;tenu par les Fran&#231;ais sous forme de monnaies &#224; environ 700 tonnes, hors bijoux et lingots. &#201;videmment, cette estimation peut para&#238;tre faible au regard du volume cumul&#233; des &#233;missions mon&#233;taires et de l&#8217;accumulation massive d&#8217;or par la France entre le XIX&#7497; si&#232;cle et le d&#233;but du XX&#7497; si&#232;cle.</p><p>N&#233;anmoins, les d&#233;mon&#233;tisations et la multiplicit&#233; des &#233;v&#233;nements militaires, financiers et g&#233;opolitiques a conduit &#224; une large &#233;viction de cet or. En particulier, les deux guerres mondiales auraient contribu&#233; &#224; des pertes non n&#233;gligeables de ce stock d&#233;tenu par le public. Par cons&#233;quent, il est probable que le stock d&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais ait subi d&#8217;importantes amputations au fil du temps.</p><p>L&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t des Fran&#231;ais pour l&#8217;or demeure encore &#233;loign&#233; de celui observ&#233; en Allemagne, en Suisse ou au Royaume-Uni. Il appara&#238;t que les Fran&#231;ais privil&#233;gient davantage l&#8217;or sous forme de bijoux. Si l&#8217;or reste majoritairement associ&#233; &#224; l&#8217;h&#233;ritage, il suscite n&#233;anmoins un int&#233;r&#234;t croissant dans un contexte o&#249; la constitution d&#8217;un patrimoine robuste et durable devient de plus en plus complexe.</p><p><a href="https://or.fr/auteur/thomas-andrieu">Thomas Andrieu</a> | 17 f&#233;vr. 2026</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LES MINISTRES DES FINANCES ...]]></title><description><![CDATA[... qui ont vendu l'or de la France.]]></description><link>https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/les-ministres-des-finances</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/les-ministres-des-finances</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Yannick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2025 16:28:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9oW9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73d06c2f-7abe-4637-83ac-f05b9a34525f_1033x771.png" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Il a particip&#233; &#224; enterrer Bull, Thomson, une partie de France-Telecom et d&#8217;Atos, Commissaire europ&#233;en de 2009 &#224; 2024 avec le succ&#232;s que l&#8217;on sait &#8230; Ministre des Finances de 2005 &#224; 2007, il a brad&#233; <strong>390 tonnes</strong> de notre or ! </p><p>Et malgr&#233; ce parcours incroyable il s&#233;vit encore sur les &#233;crans de TV. </p><p>Bravo monsieur Breton !</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2zx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecbf9d6c-7f28-4893-a4e6-5989215f6de3_199x270.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2zx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecbf9d6c-7f28-4893-a4e6-5989215f6de3_199x270.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2zx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecbf9d6c-7f28-4893-a4e6-5989215f6de3_199x270.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2zx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecbf9d6c-7f28-4893-a4e6-5989215f6de3_199x270.jpeg 1272w, 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url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>L&#8217;or des Fran&#231;ais : une enqu&#234;te sur l&#8217;&#233;pargne or des Fran&#231;ais</strong></p><p>par Yannick COLLEU</p><p>Voil&#224; plus de 20 ans que je m&#8217;int&#233;resse &#224; l&#8217;&#233;pargne en m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux. J&#8217;y suis arriv&#233; apr&#232;s avoir go&#251;t&#233; au phantasme de croire que la valorisation d&#8217;un portefeuille d&#8217;actions pouvait grimper aux arbres. D&#233;pit&#233; par le retournement soudain de l&#8217;ann&#233;e 2000 j&#8217;ai alors cherch&#233; &#224; comprendre pourquoi ce que toute la presse nous vendait comme une v&#233;rit&#233; s&#8217;&#233;tait av&#233;r&#233; totalement inepte.</p><p>Mes lectures m&#8217;ont conduit &#224; d&#233;couvrir l&#8217;opportunit&#233; que pr&#233;sentait l&#8217;&#233;pargne en m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux et en or plus particuli&#232;rement. Dans celles-ci les Fran&#231;ais &#233;taient pr&#233;sent&#233;s comme les champions du monde en mati&#232;re de th&#233;saurisation du m&#233;tal jaune.</p><p>Ren&#233; S&#233;dillot, formidable conteur de l&#8217;histoire financi&#232;re, au fil de ses nombreux ouvrages &#233;grenait les records : en 1958, les Fran&#231;ais auraient d&#233;tenu 3900 tonnes d&#8217;or, en 1961 6000 tonnes et en 1970 4700 tonnes ; une part tr&#232;s majoritaire de cette &#233;pargne &#233;tant, selon lui, sous la forme de monnaies d&#8217;or.</p><p>Franz Pick, ardent promoteur de la cause de la th&#233;saurisation aurif&#232;re, affichait, peu ou prou, les m&#234;mes statistiques. Il pr&#233;cise dans ses &#233;crits que les Fran&#231;ais auraient d&#233;tenu 20 % du stock d&#8217;or th&#233;sauris&#233; de la plan&#232;te en 1970 apr&#232;s en avoir d&#233;tenu le tiers en 1957. Ce n&#8217;est que des ann&#233;es plus tard que je d&#233;couvrais que S&#233;dillot et Pick &#233;taient de connivence ayant co-publi&#233; des ouvrages en anglais sur l&#8217;univers des devises. Lequel a influenc&#233; l&#8217;autre ?</p><p>Bien entendu ces personnages faisaient encore autorit&#233; dans les ann&#233;es 2000. La presse reprenait leur propos. Ainsi Les &#201;chos, journal sp&#233;cialis&#233; dans les domaines &#233;conomique et financier depuis 1908, publiait le 3 ao&#251;t 2004, sous la plume du journaliste Massimo Prandi, que les Fran&#231;ais d&#233;tenaient &#171; <em>selon plusieurs estimations, entre 3000 et 5000 tonnes</em> &#187;.</p><p>Si le prestigieux journal Les &#201;chos l&#8217;&#233;crit, c&#8217;est sans aucun doute que c&#8217;est vrai ! Ainsi les uns et les autres, tel Panurge, reprendront ces chiffres, sans que personne ne s&#8217;interroge sur l&#8217;origine de ces estimations et la m&#233;thode ayant permis de les obtenir. La liste des reprises est longue. Je me limiterai &#224; deux exemples, significatifs par le caract&#232;re scientifique qu&#8217;ont voulu donner les auteurs &#224; leur publication.</p><p>En 2012, Thi Hong Van Hoang, professeure-assistante &#224; l&#8217;Universit&#233; de Montpellier, reprend dans un m&#233;moire publi&#233; par la Revue Numismatique<a href="#sdendnote1sym"><sup>i</sup></a>, les chiffres de Pradi en le citant, ainsi que des chiffres tir&#233;s d&#8217;une &#233;tude de la Banque de France de 1962 (auteur et m&#233;thode inconnus) et les chiffres de la revue Le Creuset faisant &#233;tat en 1975 de 3500 tonnes th&#233;sauris&#233;es, se partageant en 2500 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or et 1000 tonnes de lingots et barres. Puis en 2018 Fran&#231;ois de Lassus de CPoR-devises pr&#233;cise, dans les Annales des Mines<a href="#sdendnote2sym"><sup>ii</sup></a> citant des &#171; <em>sources autoris&#233;es</em> &#187;, que cette &#233;pargne aurif&#232;re est constitu&#233;e de 2100 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or et de 1100 tonnes de lingots.</p><p>Je confesse que pendant tr&#232;s longtemps j&#8217;ai pris pour argent comptant les affirmations de Ren&#233; S&#233;dillot, et les reprises de celui-ci, sur le niveau d&#8217;&#233;pargne des Fran&#231;ais. Mon sentiment a &#233;volu&#233; en lisant les ouvrages remarquables de Didier Bruneel, directeur g&#233;n&#233;ral honoraire de la Banque de France. Dans deux publications<a href="#sdendnote3sym"><sup>iii</sup></a> extr&#234;mement document&#233;es et magnifiquement illustr&#233;es, il &#233;voque de fa&#231;on d&#233;taill&#233;e les &#233;volutions de la r&#233;serve m&#233;tallique de la Banque de France et plus particuli&#232;rement les d&#233;mon&#233;tisations qui ont frapp&#233; le stock de monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises apr&#232;s 1945.</p><p>La simple lecture de ces deux ouvrages, qui n&#233;anmoins ne couvrent pas tous les &#233;pisodes malheureux qui ont impact&#233; la monnaie d&#8217;or, devrait permettre &#224; n&#8217;importe qui de comprendre qu&#8217;il est impensable qu&#8217;il puisse encore rester de nos jours 2100 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises et encore moins 3000 tonnes<a href="#sdendnote4sym"><sup>iv</sup></a>, alors que de 1803 &#224; 1921 la France a mis en circulation 3526 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or (monnaies de 5 &#224; 100 francs or), et de 1951 &#224; 1960 218 tonnes d&#8217;or sous la forme de jetons (copie de 20 francs Marianne-Coq<a href="#sdendnote5sym"><sup>v</sup></a>). Au total ceci repr&#233;sente donc <strong>3744 tonnes d&#8217;or</strong> ayant circul&#233; et pouvant avoir &#233;t&#233; potentiellement th&#233;sauris&#233;es par les Fran&#231;ais et la Banque de France.</p><p>En face de ces &#233;missions, &#224; elles seules les d&#233;mon&#233;tisations de monnaies d&#8217;or (destin&#233;es &#224; la refonte), dont les chiffres officiels d&#233;taill&#233;s sont consultables dans les ouvrages p&#233;riodiques de l&#8217;Administration des monnaies et des m&#233;dailles<a href="#sdendnote6sym"><sup>vi</sup></a>, repr&#233;sentent en 1950 un total de <strong>1119 tonnes de fin</strong>.</p><p>Enfin, et pour achever de se convaincre, il suffit de parcourir les rapports du <em>World Gold Council</em> donnant le solde annuel des transactions d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement par pays. Ce bilan d&#233;montre que les &#233;pargnants fran&#231;ais ont &#233;t&#233; vendeurs au moins depuis les ann&#233;es 1990, et ceci presque tous les ans. Le graphique ci-dessous consolide toutes les donn&#233;es obtenues dans ces rapports de 1992 &#224; 2023 pour la France, l&#8217;Allemagne et l&#8217;Europe.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png" width="1456" height="855" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:855,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4r5I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea6801eb-e49a-4f3d-ad37-4fdc0e03ba40_1604x942.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>&#201;volution des soldes des transactions physiques d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement de 1992 &#224; 2023.</em></p><p><em>Source des donn&#233;es: rapports du World Gold Council &#8211; Graphique : Yannick COLLEU</em></p><p>&#192; la d&#233;couverte de ce graphique, le constat est sans appel ! Pour la seule p&#233;riode allant de 1992 &#224; 2023 le d&#233;ficit <strong>d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement</strong> de l&#8217;&#233;pargne m&#233;tallique des Fran&#231;ais s&#8217;&#233;l&#232;ve &#224; <strong>416 tonnes</strong> d&#8217;or fin. Sachant que le prix de l&#8217;or a &#233;t&#233; dans une tendance fortement baissi&#232;re depuis 1983 ce d&#233;ficit pourrait probablement se situer autour de 500 tonnes.</p><p>M&#234;me apr&#232;s la crise de 2008, le solde des transactions d&#8217;investissement de ces Fran&#231;ais, pourtant toujours consid&#233;r&#233;s comme les champions de l&#8217;&#233;pargne m&#233;tallique, d&#233;passe rarement 1 tonne de fin alors qu&#8217;en Allemagne la crise a d&#233;clench&#233; un v&#233;ritable traumatisme. Les Allemands ont encore en m&#233;moire les ann&#233;es 1920 et la prudence les poussent &#224; investir en moyenne 80 &#224; 100 tonnes d&#8217;or par an. Le graphique parle ici de lui-m&#234;me.</p><p>Voil&#224; donc deux vieilles antiennes qui tombent : le montant d&#8217;or de l&#8217;&#233;pargne des Fran&#231;ais n&#8217;est pas ce que l&#8217;on nous vend et les Fran&#231;ais, c&#233;dant &#224; la propagande des banques et de leur leitmotiv &#171; <em>L&#8217;or n&#8217;a pas de rendement</em> &#187;, ont perdu cette app&#233;tence l&#233;gendaire qu&#8217;ils avaient pour le m&#233;tal jaune.</p><p>D&#232;s lors comment approcher la v&#233;rit&#233; sur le chiffre actuel de l&#8217;&#233;pargne m&#233;tallique en or des Fran&#231;ais ? C&#8217;est l&#8217;enqu&#234;te que j&#8217;ai entreprise il y a maintenant deux ans.</p><p>Les d&#233;mon&#233;tisations nous donnent un premier r&#233;sultat : il ne peut pas y avoir, aujourd&#8217;hui, plus de 2625 tonnes de monnaies et jetons d&#8217;or, voire un peu moins en consid&#233;rant qu&#8217;une bonne part du d&#233;ficit de 416 tonnes est attribuable &#224; des monnaies d&#8217;or. Par ailleurs la Banque de France d&#233;tient dans ses coffres 60 tonnes de monnaies fran&#231;aises et 62 tonnes de monnaies &#233;trang&#232;res. Le chiffre maximum de monnaies fran&#231;aises descend ainsi &#224; environ 2200 tonnes.</p><p>N&#233;anmoins la perte des monnaies n&#8217;est pas le fait unique des d&#233;mon&#233;tisations.</p><p>Les causes de ces pertes sont nombreuses et tr&#232;s diverses. Il n&#8217;est pas possible de les d&#233;tailler ici, une simple liste convaincra le lecteur de l&#8217;importance des risques qui ont pes&#233; sur les monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises depuis la fin du XVIIIe si&#232;cle :</p><p>Elles s&#8217;usent et sont vendues au poids aux joailliers. Elles sont perdues corps et bien et feront le bonheur des d&#233;tectoristes. Elles sont fondues pour en extraire l&#8217;argent qui s&#8217;y logeait (les anciennes monnaies contenaient 60 &#224; 70 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;argent par kilogramme de pi&#232;ces). Dans un syst&#232;me mon&#233;taire bim&#233;talliste, elles sont export&#233;es dans des op&#233;rations d&#8217;arbitrage de devises ou de m&#233;taux. Elles sont fondues car, l&#8217;inflation s&#8217;installant, l&#8217;or contenu vaut bien plus que l&#8217;ancienne valeur faciale, ce n&#8217;est qu&#8217;&#224; partir de 1919 que la fonte de pi&#232;ces d&#8217;or sera r&#233;prim&#233;e.</p><p>Elles sont remises &#224; l&#8217;ennemi pour payer les indemnit&#233;s de guerre exig&#233;es et financer les charges de troupes d&#8217;occupation (1815, 1871, 1940). Elles sont vol&#233;es par l&#8217;occupant dans les foyers fran&#231;ais et dans les banques.</p><p>Elles sont aussi export&#233;es pour servir de mati&#232;re premi&#232;re &#224; la cr&#233;ation de monnaies &#233;trang&#232;res (pr&#232;s de 300 tonnes de 20 francs ont &#233;t&#233; fondues pour la cr&#233;ation en 1873 du Mark-or ). Elles sont export&#233;es par les touristes et les hommes d&#8217;affaires se rendant aux &#201;tats-Unis et fondues sur place en application de la loi mon&#233;taire de 1857, pour permettre &#224; la jeune monnaie d&#8217;or am&#233;ricaine de trouver sa place. Dans le cadre des souscriptions aux emprunts des chemins de fer russes, elles passent dans les caisses du Tsar, puis une part participe au financement de l&#8217;&#233;quipement et de l&#8217;armement des Russes blancs, et finalement une autre part dispara&#238;t apr&#232;s la d&#233;faite des Blancs.</p><p>Elles sont requises par le gouvernement soit en faisant appel au patriotisme des Fran&#231;ais (1915-1921), soit de fa&#231;on autoritaire (1936).</p><p>Enfin, elles sont utilis&#233;es en Belgique (en 1878, 62 % des 20 francs et 98,5 % des 10 francs &#233;taient des monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises) et en Suisse (en 1905, 63 % des 10 et 20 francs &#233;taient des monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises) comme monnaies courantes et y subissent les m&#234;mes maux que leurs cons&#339;urs dans l&#8217;Hexagone&#8230;</p><p>Toutes ces situations ne sont pas document&#233;es. Les archives de la Banque de France et du minist&#232;re de l&#8217;&#201;conomie et des Finances ont permis parfois de quantifier certains de ces risques &#224; la lecture de quelques &#233;tudes ou de comptes-rendus officiels.</p><p>En se limitant aux seules donn&#233;es fiables, le bilan le plus optimiste serait qu&#8217;il ne resterait aujourd&#8217;hui <strong>pas plus</strong> de 700 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises dans les mains des Fran&#231;ais, et de fa&#231;on quasi certaine, 122 tonnes de monnaies fran&#231;aises et &#233;trang&#232;res &#224; la Banque de France.</p><p>N&#233;anmoins cette conclusion ne prend pas en compte l&#8217;or fondu par les particuliers et les professionnels. L&#8217;estimation de 600 tonnes d&#8217;or utilis&#233;es de 1914 &#224; 1928 &#224; destination industrielle donn&#233;e par De Litra n&#8217;est pas comprise dans ce r&#233;sultat de 700 tonnes. En prenant l&#8217;hypoth&#232;se que seulement 200 tonnes de monnaies d&#8217;or auraient &#233;t&#233; fondues pour cet usage le montant de monnaies d&#8217;or survivantes en 2024 tomberait d&#232;s lors &#224; 500 tonnes. De m&#234;me le volume de monnaies d&#8217;or vol&#233;es dans le Nord et l&#8217;Est pendant la Grande guerre (estimation de Ren&#233; Pupin : 100 tonnes), ou bien encore le volume de monnaies d&#8217;or export&#233;es vers les &#201;tats-Unis<a href="#sdendnote7sym"><sup>vii</sup></a> font partie des nombreux risques difficiles &#224; quantifier qui impacteraient fortement le bilan ci-dessus.</p><p>Outre toutes ces informations qui m&#8217;ont permis de cerner le montant maximum en monnaies d&#8217;or que les Fran&#231;ais pourraient d&#233;tenir, les archives m&#8217;ont offert quelques d&#233;couvertes inattendues.</p><p>La premi&#232;re est relative &#224; la c&#233;l&#232;bre et tr&#232;s confidentielle 100 francs Bazor. Une monnaie d&#8217;or cr&#233;&#233;e d&#8217;apr&#232;s la loi mon&#233;taire de 1928, mais autoris&#233;e pour la frappe seulement en mars 1935 et enfin frapp&#233;es de 1935 &#224; 1936 &#224; 13 790 741 exemplaires<a href="#sdendnote8sym"><sup>viii</sup></a>. N&#233;anmoins la d&#233;pr&#233;ciation du franc par rapport au prix de l&#8217;or n&#8217;a pas permis aux autorit&#233;s mon&#233;taires de les mettre en circulation, leur valeur faciale &#233;tant alors de plus en plus d&#233;pass&#233;e par leur valeur intrins&#232;que mois apr&#232;s mois. Elles n&#8217;ont donc jamais quitt&#233; les coffres de la Banque de France avant leur d&#233;mon&#233;tisation par la loi du 1er octobre 1936, et sont suppos&#233;es avoir &#233;t&#233; fondues &#224; cette occasion. N&#233;anmoins, non seulement quelques exemplaires de cette pi&#232;ce, n&#8217;ayant jamais &#233;t&#233; mise en circulation rappelons-le, circulent &#233;trangement entre numismates d&#8217;une part, mais, d&#8217;autre part, l&#8217;inventaire de cl&#244;ture de l&#8217;ann&#233;e 1960 mentionne la pr&#233;sence de 190 000 pi&#232;ces de 100 francs Bazor dans l&#8217;encaisse-or de la Banque de France. Le montant en monnaies d&#8217;or de cette encaisse n&#8217;ayant pas significativement boug&#233; entre 1960 et 2012, il est tr&#232;s probable que la Banque poss&#232;de donc encore aujourd&#8217;hui ces 190 000 pi&#232;ces dans ses coffres.</p><p>L&#8217;autre d&#233;couverte est tout aussi inattendue. Tous les numismates connaissent les avatars de ces 20 francs-or baptis&#233;es &#171; Pinay &#187;. Ces <strong>copies &#8211;</strong> et non pas refrappes &#8211; de monnaies d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es de 20 francs or aux mill&#233;simes de 1907 &#224; 1914, r&#233;alis&#233;es entre 1951 et 1960, ont surpris tous les professionnels &#224; leur apparition sur le march&#233; en 1951 par leur qualit&#233; de frappe et leur couleur rouge&#226;tre. Destin&#233;es &#224; fournir des munitions au Fonds de stabilisation des changes pour orienter le march&#233;, ces pi&#232;ces ont pendant longtemps &#233;t&#233; consid&#233;r&#233;es comme des monnaies, &#224; l&#8217;instar de leurs mod&#232;les d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es, ce qui est une absurdit&#233;.</p><p>Dans les faits elles sont diff&#233;rentes pour deux raisons incontestables.</p><p>La premi&#232;re est une lapalissade : pour &#234;tre une monnaie d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;e il faut avoir &#233;t&#233; adoub&#233; en tant que monnaie par un d&#233;cret. Ces pi&#232;ces, copies de monnaies d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es depuis 1926, n&#8217;ont jamais re&#231;u ce sacrement. Les comptes-rendus des r&#233;unions du Conseil g&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque de France r&#233;v&#232;lent que Wilfrid Baumgartner, gouverneur de la Banque en 1951, pr&#233;cise que ces copies ne sont pas des &#171; monnaies &#187; mais des &#171;<strong> m&#233;dailles </strong>&#187;<a href="#sdendnote9sym"><sup>ix</sup></a>. C&#8217;est aussi ce dernier terme qui est utilis&#233; par le ministre des Finances Ren&#233; Mayer dans sa lettre du 30 octobre 1951 adress&#233;e au gouverneur ordonnant le lancement de l&#8217;op&#233;ration.</p><p>Par ailleurs, ces copies se distinguent par leur couleur rouge&#226;tre, diff&#233;rente du dor&#233; jaun&#226;tre des populaires jaunets. Il y a exactement 10 ans j&#8217;avais fait r&#233;aliser des analyses de spectrom&#233;trie de fluorescence sur deux &#233;chantillons, volontairement m&#233;lang&#233;s, de monnaies et de copies de 20 francs. Ce test avait r&#233;v&#233;l&#233; une composition diff&#233;rente des alliages, dont un plus faible titre en or, compens&#233; par un apport d&#8217;argent, ce qui expliquait les diff&#233;rences de couleurs &#233;voqu&#233;es plus haut.</p><p>Dix ans apr&#232;s, ce sont les archives de la Banque qui viennent conforter cette conclusion.</p><p>En effet, dans l&#8217;inventaire de 1956, la Banque pr&#233;cise le titre en or des &#171; <strong>Nouvelles pi&#232;ces d&#8217;or de 20 francs</strong> &#187;, c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire 5,789 grammes de fin par pi&#232;ce (voir ci-dessous), ce qui se traduit par un titre de <strong>897,3 milli&#232;mes</strong> au lieu du titre officiel de 900 milli&#232;mes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Mouvements de l&#8217;or en 1956 (archives de la banque de France) Photo : Yannick COLLEU</em></p><p>Tout numismate sait que le franc germinal, unit&#233; mon&#233;taire deux fois centenaire qui s&#8217;est &#233;teinte le 1<sup>er</sup> avril 2003<a href="#sdendnote10sym"><sup>x</sup></a>, se traduit par 9/31 gramme d&#8217;or. Soit pour une pi&#232;ce de 20 francs or par 5,80645162 grammes. &#192; un titre &#171; au rabais &#187; la Banque de France a &#233;conomis&#233; 654,4 kilogrammes d&#8217;or fin. Dit autrement, les Fran&#231;ais qui ont achet&#233; ces copies de 20 francs ont &#233;t&#233; dup&#233;s de 654,4 kilogrammes d&#8217;or, soit au cours actuel de plus de 52 millions d&#8217;euros.</p><p>En conclusion, ces copies sont ind&#233;niablement diff&#233;rentes des mod&#232;les. Pourtant les pratiques du commerce de m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux continuent comme si de rien n&#8217;&#233;tait, avec l&#8217;aval passif de l&#8217;administration fiscale qui refuse de se positionner concr&#232;tement sur cette situation h&#233;rit&#233;e d&#8217;une forfaiture et qui l&#232;se des milliers de consommateurs auxquels on impose une taxe de 11,5 % l&#224; o&#249; les crit&#232;res de la litt&#233;rature m&#234;me de l&#8217;administration exon&#232;rent de taxe<a href="#sdendnote11sym"><sup>xi</sup></a> les cessions de ces copies.</p><p>Cette enqu&#234;te a &#233;t&#233; en fait un voyage dans l&#8217;histoire de la France depuis la fin du XVIIIe si&#232;cle, passionnant et riche en d&#233;couvertes. Rien de tr&#232;s novateur dans cette r&#233;flexion pour des numismates qui savent que la monnaie est le reflet intime de l&#8217;histoire d&#8217;un pays.</p><p><a href="#sdendnote1anc">i</a><a href="https://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484-8942_2012_num_6_168_3176">https://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484-8942_2012_num_6_168_3176</a></p><p><a href="#sdendnote2anc">ii</a><a href="https://www.annales.org/ri/2018/resumes/novembre/14-ri-resum-FR-AN-novembre-2018.html">https://www.annales.org/ri/2018/resumes/novembre/14-ri-resum-FR-AN-novembre-2018.html</a></p><p><a href="#sdendnote3anc">iii</a>&#171; Les Secrets de L&#8217;Or &#187; (2012) et &#171; La Banque de France dans la Grande Guerre &#187; (2015).</p><p><a href="#sdendnote4anc">iv</a>&#171; La rentabilit&#233; r&#233;elle des actifs boursiers de 1950 &#224; 1992 &#187; dans &#201;conomie et statistique n&#176; 281 (1995).</p><p><a href="#sdendnote5anc">v</a>Ces copies de 20 francs au profit du Fonds de stabilisation des changes ont &#233;t&#233; fabriqu&#233;es de 1951 &#224; 1960 en copiant &#224; l&#8217;identique (sauf le titre d&#8217;or qui est en dessous de 900 milli&#232;mes) les 20 francs, aux mill&#233;simes 1907 &#224; 1914, d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es par la loi de 1928. Comme le pr&#233;cisait &#224; l&#8217;&#233;poque le ministre des Finances et le gouverneur de la Banque de France ce sont pas des monnaies mais des m&#233;dailles (ou jetons). Voir sur le site d&#8217;archives de la Banque de France le rapport du Conseil g&#233;n&#233;ral du 18 octobre 1951.</p><p><a href="#sdendnote6anc">vi</a>Voir &#171; Rapport au Ministre des Finances 1919-1923 &#187; page 136.</p><p><a href="#sdendnote7anc">vii</a>Un relev&#233;, rapide et non exhaustif, r&#233;alis&#233; dans les archives de la Banque de France sur 6 mois (de septembre 1891 &#224; mars 1892) &#224; partir des rapports de la Douane fran&#231;aise &#224; la Banque de France r&#233;v&#232;le que 11 tonnes de fin ont &#233;t&#233; export&#233;es. Il serait donc tout &#224; fait possible de retenir le chiffre d&#8217;une centaine de tonnes (c&#8217;est une estimation on ne peut plus prudente sachant que la loi sur la refonte de monnaies &#233;trang&#232;res date de 1857).</p><p><a href="#sdendnote8anc">viii</a>En 1935, 6 100 000 pi&#232;ces, puis en 1936, 7 680 000 jusqu&#8217;en septembre.</p><p><a href="#sdendnote9anc">ix</a>Comptes-rendus du Conseil g&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque de France des 18 et 25 octobre et 2 novembre 1951. Cette &#171; affaire &#187; a &#233;t&#233; magistralement r&#233;sum&#233;e par Jean-Luc Grippari dans un article du 1<sup>er</sup> d&#233;cembre 2023 sur le site internet loretlargent.info sous le titre &#171; Pi&#232;ce 20 francs Napol&#233;on jeton : la gen&#232;se des m&#233;dailles en or Marianne Coq de 1951 &#224; 1960 &#187;.</p><p><a href="#sdendnote10anc">x</a>Le franc germinal est rest&#233; jusqu&#8217;en 2003 l&#8217;unit&#233; mon&#233;taire de la Banque des r&#232;glements internationaux. Il a &#233;t&#233; remplac&#233; par les Droits de tirage sp&#233;ciaux, unit&#233; virtuelle bas&#233;e sur un panier de devises, elles-m&#234;mes totalement virtuelles.</p><p><a href="#sdendnote11anc">xi</a>Ces copies, qui ne sont pas des monnaies, sont ce que l&#8217;article 50 du BOI-RPPM-PVBMC-20-10 nomme &#171; <em>autres ouvrages en m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux </em>&#187; et l&#8217;article 60 du m&#234;me BOI pr&#233;cise &#171;<em> Les objets d&#8217;or et d'argent travaill&#233;s sont class&#233;s parmi les bijoux et assimil&#233;s, par analogie avec la bijouterie, et ne rel&#232;vent donc pas de la cat&#233;gorie des m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux</em>. &#187;</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LA GENÈSE DES COPIES « PINAY »]]></title><description><![CDATA[Les copies des minutes des r&#233;unions du Conseil G&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque de France que vous trouverez dans les pages qui suivent racontent la gen&#232;se de la mise sur le march&#233; (ill&#233;galement) en 1951, par le gouvernement fran&#231;ais, de copies de la c&#233;l&#232;bre pi&#232;ce de 20F or Marianne-Coq,]]></description><link>https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/la-genese-des-copies-pinay</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/la-genese-des-copies-pinay</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Yannick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:26:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Les copies des minutes des r&#233;unions du Conseil G&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque de France que vous trouverez dans les pages qui suivent racontent la gen&#232;se de la mise sur le march&#233; (ill&#233;galement) en 1951, par le gouvernement fran&#231;ais, de <strong>copies</strong> de la c&#233;l&#232;bre pi&#232;ce de 20F or Marianne-Coq, <strong>d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;e depuis 1928</strong>.</p><p>Ces copies connues du public sous le nom de &#171; <strong>refrappes Pinay</strong> &#187; sont, comme le pr&#233;cisaient en 1951 le gouverneur de la Banque de France et le ministre des Finances, des <strong>m&#233;dailles</strong>. </p><p>En r&#233;alit&#233; l&#8217;emploi du terme &#171; <strong>jeton*</strong> &#187; est plus juste, c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire qu&#8217;il est question ici de pi&#232;ces sans rapport avec le privil&#232;ge mon&#233;taire qui avait &#233;t&#233; accord&#233; jusqu&#8217;en 1928 au mod&#232;le 20F Marianne-Coq qui a servi pour fabriquer ces jetons.</p><p>D&#233;sormais &#8220;<em>la contrefa&#231;on ou la falsification de pi&#232;ces de monnaie &#8230; fran&#231;aises ou &#233;trang&#232;res n&#8217;ayant plus cours l&#233;gal ou n&#8217;&#233;tant plus autoris&#233;es est punie de cinq d&#8217;emprisonnement et de 75000 euros d&#8217;amende</em> &#8221; selon l&#8217;article 442-3 du Code p&#233;nal.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png" width="1032" height="590" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:590,&quot;width&quot;:1032,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:794656,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-60!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9420de2-6810-4d56-a0af-84a3fc08dd08_1032x590.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>L&#233;gende:<em> &#224; gauche une copie &#8220;Pinay&#8221;, &#224; droite une monnaie de 20F Marianne-Coq</em></p><p></p><p>Les principaux acteurs de ce projet hors du commun en 1951 sont :</p><ul><li><p>Le Ministre des Finances : Ren&#233; MAYER qui succ&#233;dait &#224; Maurice PETSCHE (&#224; l&#8217;origine de la d&#233;cision officieuse en mai 1951) ;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Le Gouverneur de la Banque de France : Wilfrid BAUMGARTNER.</p></li></ul><p>Les pages qui suivent sont les extraits (en rapport avec le sujet) des proc&#232;s-verbaux des s&#233;ances du Conseil G&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque de France :</p><p>n&#176; 42 du 18 octobre 1951</p><p>n&#176; 43 du 25 octobre 1951</p><p>n&#176; 44 du 2 novembre 1951</p><p>n&#176; 5 du 31 janvier 1952</p><p>Note : * &#171;&nbsp;<em>Jetons : des objets m&#233;talliques, autres que les flans destin&#233;s &#224; la frappe des pi&#232;ces, qui ont l&#8217;aspect de pi&#232;ces et/ou en poss&#232;dent les propri&#233;t&#233;s techniques, mais qui ne sont pas &#233;mis en vertu de dispositions l&#233;gislatives nationales ou de pays tiers participants ou d&#8217;autres dispositions l&#233;gislatives &#233;trang&#232;res et qui ne constituent donc ni un moyen de paiement l&#233;gal, ni un cours l&#233;gal.</em>&nbsp;&#187; Source: Article 1 du R&#232;glement (CE) N&#176; 2182/2004 du Conseil du 6 d&#233;cembre 2004 concernant les m&#233;dailles et les jetons similaires aux pi&#232;ces en euros.</p><div><hr></div><p>Ces archives nous ont &#233;t&#233; r&#233;v&#233;l&#233;es gr&#226;ce aux recherches men&#233;es par Jean-Luc GRIPPARI. 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et</strong><em><strong> </strong></em><strong>leurs copies Pinay </strong>de <strong>Jean-Luc GRIPPARI</strong> (<a href="https://blog.cgb.fr/bulletin-numismatique-246-novembre-2024,14621.html">Bulletin Numismatique n&#176; 246 -11/2024</a> )</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7jq5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e9e7948-9b83-442b-be89-76f00bdeb764_629x315.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7jq5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e9e7948-9b83-442b-be89-76f00bdeb764_629x315.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>A mill&#233;sime identique (ici 1911), l&#8217;aspect visuel est bien diff&#233;rent entre une frappe d&#8217;origine qui a circul&#233; (&#224; gauche) et sa copie Pinay qui n&#8217;a jamais circul&#233; (&#224; droite).</em></p><p><strong>Pr&#233;ambule</strong></p><p>Le terme &#171;&nbsp;refrappe&nbsp;&#187; est mal d&#233;fini dans la litt&#233;rature numismatique. Ainsi, m&#234;me les ouvrages de r&#233;f&#233;rence comme &#171;&nbsp;<em>Le Franc, les monnaies, les archives</em>&nbsp;&#187; (&#233;dition 2019), &#171;&nbsp;<em>Le Franc 10, les monnaies</em>&nbsp;&#187; (&#233;dition 2014) ou encore &#171;&nbsp;<em>Le Franc poche&nbsp;</em>&#187; (&#233;dition 2023) n&#8217;en proposent aucune d&#233;finition. Il en va de m&#234;me pour le Gadoury (&#233;dition 2021).</p><p>Le premier ouvrage cit&#233; cr&#233;e m&#234;me une ambigu&#239;t&#233; car bien qu&#8217;il &#233;voque (page 778) les nouvelles frappes de 20 francs or Marianne Coq en 1921 et dans les ann&#233;es 1951-1960, il utilise le terme de &#171;&nbsp;refrappage&nbsp;&#187; et non celui de &#171;&nbsp;refrappe&nbsp;&#187; (page 778). L&#8217;ambigu&#239;t&#233; est d&#8217;autant plus grande que le glossaire numismatique de ce m&#234;me livre d&#233;finit (page 87) le &#171;&nbsp;refrappage&nbsp;&#187; comme &#233;tant la <em>frappe &#224; un nouveau type sur une pi&#232;ce d&#8217;un autre type</em>, ce que l&#8217;on peut interpr&#233;ter comme une surfrappe ou une r&#233;formation.</p><p>Dans cet article, nous consid&#233;rerons qu&#8217;une refrappe est une nouvelle frappe ordonn&#233;e par l&#8217;&#201;tat et r&#233;alis&#233;e sur un flan vierge, au m&#234;me type mon&#233;taire d&#8217;une pi&#232;ce d&#233;j&#224; &#233;mise par le pass&#233; et qui a toujours cours l&#233;gal au moment o&#249; l&#8217;op&#233;ration est ex&#233;cut&#233;e. <em>A priori</em>, la refrappe est une copie conforme car le plus souvent r&#233;alis&#233;e avec les matrices et coins d&#8217;origine. Toutefois, le mill&#233;sime grav&#233; sur ces refrappes peut poser probl&#232;me car deux cas sont possibles&nbsp;: soit ce mill&#233;sime correspond &#224; l&#8217;ann&#233;e civile en cours au moment de la refrappe, soit il est antidat&#233; pour correspondre &#224; l&#8217;une des ann&#233;es d&#8217;&#233;mission des frappes d&#8217;origine.</p><p>L&#8217;exemple parfait est celui des 20 francs Marianne Coq refrapp&#233;es en 1921 mais avec un mill&#233;sime antidat&#233; 1914&nbsp;: ces pi&#232;ces sont d&#8217;authentiques refrappes car la pi&#232;ce d&#8217;origine avait toujours cours l&#233;gal et n&#8217;&#233;tait pas d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;e au moment de la refrappe.</p><p>Le contre-exemple tout aussi parfait est celui des 20 francs Marianne Coq fabriqu&#233;es entre 1951 et 1960 avec de faux mill&#233;simes antidat&#233;s allant de 1907 &#224; 1914. Au moment de leur fabrication, les pi&#232;ces d&#8217;origine copi&#233;es &#233;taient d&#233;j&#224; d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es et priv&#233;es de cours l&#233;gal depuis la loi mon&#233;taire du 25 juin 1928. Dans ces conditions, ce que beaucoup appellent des &#171;&nbsp;refrappes Pinay&nbsp;&#187; ne sont en r&#233;alit&#233; que des copies des pi&#232;ces d&#8217;origine. C&#8217;est pourquoi nous les d&#233;signerons d&#233;sormais sous le terme plus appropri&#233; de &#171;&nbsp;copies Pinay&nbsp;&#187; car c&#8217;est l&#8217;appellation qui correspond le mieux &#224; la r&#233;alit&#233;.</p><p>Enfin, pour clore ce pr&#233;ambule, on rappellera que certains pays comme les USA imposent que les refrappes non &#233;tatiques de monnaies nationales ou &#233;trang&#232;res comportent de fa&#231;on infalsifiable et ind&#233;l&#233;bile la mention &#171;&nbsp;copy&nbsp;&#187;<sup>[1]</sup>, ceci afin de prot&#233;ger les frappes d&#8217;origine et les &#233;ventuelles refrappes &#233;tatiques officielles.</p><p><strong>1 &#8211; Introduction</strong></p><p>Jusqu&#8217;&#224; pr&#233;sent, il a toujours &#233;t&#233; difficile de distinguer avec certitude les copies Pinay des frappes d&#8217;origine des pi&#232;ces de 20 francs or au type Marianne Coq.</p><p>La litt&#233;rature sp&#233;cialis&#233;e avait certes popularis&#233; par le pass&#233; un subtil faisceau d&#8217;arguments en faveur des copies mais celui-ci n&#8217;avait pas fait consensus dans le public ni emport&#233; l&#8217;adh&#233;sion de l&#8217;Administration fiscale et, &#224; la suite de cette derni&#232;re, des professionnels en m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux. L&#8217;un des reproches souvent avanc&#233;s &#233;tait le caract&#232;re jug&#233; parfois trop subjectif des crit&#232;res discriminants propos&#233;s lesquels&nbsp;int&#233;ressaient :</p><p>- la couleur, plut&#244;t jaune pour les frappes d&#8217;origine et l&#233;g&#232;rement rouge&#226;tre pour les copies&nbsp;;</p><p>- l&#8217;aspect visuel presque &#171;&nbsp;neuf&nbsp;&#187;&nbsp;;</p><p>- la qualit&#233; des copies, presque FDC (fleur de coin)&nbsp;;</p><p>- l&#8217;aspect rugueux au toucher du listel car constitu&#233; de motifs ayant un relief plus marqu&#233; que celui des frappes d&#8217;origine.</p><p>Il faut par ailleurs rappeler que les copies&nbsp;:</p><p>- n&#8217;ont jamais int&#233;ress&#233; les pi&#232;ces de 10 francs du m&#234;me type mon&#233;taire&nbsp;;</p><p>- ne peuvent &#234;tre observ&#233;es qu&#8217;avec des mill&#233;simes allant de 1907 &#224; 1914 et par cons&#233;quent sur des pi&#232;ces dont la tranche est grav&#233;e de la devise r&#233;publicaine &#171;&nbsp;Libert&#233;, &#201;galit&#233;, Fraternit&#233;&nbsp;&#187;.</p><p>La situation est rest&#233;e fig&#233;e dans ce <em>statu quo</em> pendant plusieurs d&#233;cennies jusqu&#8217;&#224; ce que de notables progr&#232;s techniques joints &#224; de r&#233;centes d&#233;couvertes dans les archives de la Banque de France et du Minist&#232;re des Finances changent radicalement la donne. Les nouveaux crit&#232;res discriminants qui en d&#233;coulent sont objectifs et permettent d&#233;sormais de conna&#238;tre avec certitude la nature exacte des pi&#232;ces, c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire frappes d&#8217;origine ou copies.</p><p>L&#8217;article pr&#233;sente ces nouveaux crit&#232;res et propose de les utiliser dans un arbre de d&#233;cision.</p><p><strong>2 &#8211; Rappel des principales caract&#233;ristiques physiques</strong></p><p>Les copies Pinay et les frappes d&#8217;origine mill&#233;sim&#233;es 1907-1914 pr&#233;sentent un certain nombre de caract&#233;ristiques physiques en commun :</p><p>- diam&#232;tre de 21 mm ;</p><p>- poids total de 6,45 grammes ;</p><p>- axe orient&#233; &#224; 6 heures (frappe monnaie) ;</p><p>- tranche B avec devise inscrite en relief *++*LIBERT&#201;+*&#201;GALIT&#201;+*FRATERNIT&#201;.</p><p><strong>4 &#8211; Les donn&#233;es historiques issues des archives officielles</strong></p><p>C&#8217;est une avanc&#233;e majeure dans la compr&#233;hension de la gen&#232;se des copies Pinay. On la doit &#224; l&#8217;acharnement de Yannick COLLEU qui a patiemment pass&#233; en revue les archives de la Banque de France, du Minist&#232;re des Finances et de la Monnaie de Paris (&#233;poque Quatri&#232;me R&#233;publique).</p><p>Un document d&#8217;importance majeure a en effet &#233;t&#233; d&#233;couvert dans les archives de la Banque de France<sup>[2]</sup>. Il pr&#233;cise le poids d&#8217;or fin que contient chaque copie. Surprise&nbsp;de taille : celui-ci ne correspond absolument pas au poids officiel fix&#233; par la Loi du 7 germinal an XI (28 mars 1803) &#224; 5,806451613 g d&#8217;or fin (pr&#233;cis&#233;ment 900/155) mais &#224; seulement 5,789 g. Le titre d&#8217;or des copies n&#8217;est donc pas de 900 milli&#232;mes mais de seulement 897,3 milli&#232;mes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png" width="1456" height="820" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:820,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:6803707,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hjvg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b40e03e-ba5d-4107-9b48-bfb043c3ef98_4000x2252.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Le document trouv&#233; aux archives de la Banque de France (avec l&#8217;aimable autorisation de Yannick COLLEU)</em></p><p>Le lecteur int&#233;ress&#233; retrouvera ce document largement comment&#233; &#224; la page 123 du livre de Yannick COLLEU, &#171;&nbsp;<em>l&#8217;Or des Fran&#231;ais</em> (2024)&nbsp;<sup>[3]</sup> &#187;. Il trouvera &#233;galement d&#8217;autres informations connexes importantes du m&#234;me auteur sur les blogs &#171;&nbsp;<em>L&#8217;Or et l&#8217;Argent</em>&nbsp;&#187; <sup>[4]</sup> et &#171;&nbsp;<em>Aurum etc.&nbsp;&#187; </em><sup>[5]</sup> .</p><p>Cette d&#233;couverte historique est d&#8217;une importance capitale car elle montre que, d&#232;s le d&#233;but de l&#8217;op&#233;ration, les copies Pinay ont &#233;t&#233; sciemment fabriqu&#233;es de fa&#231;on diff&#233;rente des frappes d&#8217;origine mais, et c&#8217;est l&#224; que r&#233;side l&#8217;entourloupe, sans que cela modifie l&#8217;aspect visuel ext&#233;rieur de la pi&#232;ce et sans rendre public le subterfuge. De la belle ouvrage de faussaire&nbsp;!</p><p>Au passage, le fait qu&#8217;il y a moins d&#8217;or dans chaque pi&#232;ce contribue &#224; expliquer la nuance rougeaude des copies. Nous verrons toutefois au paragraphe suivant que ce n&#8217;est pas la seule raison.</p><p>Le grignotage d&#8217;or fin r&#233;alis&#233; sur chaque pi&#232;ce peut para&#238;tre minime. Mais, rapport&#233; aux 37,5 millions de copies r&#233;alis&#233;es entre 1951 et 1960, cela repr&#233;sente quand m&#234;me un peu plus de 654 kg d&#8217;or pur. Il n&#8217;y a pas de petites &#233;conomies...</p><p>Il y a donc eu tromperie sur la marchandise. Mais comme le public n&#8217;en a jamais rien su, il a pu continuer d&#8217;acheter en confiance de jolies Marianne Coq toutes neuves, sans se douter qu&#8217;elles ne contenaient pas le m&#234;me poids d&#8217;or fin que les frappes d&#8217;origine. En somme, de la r&#233;duflation (francisation de l&#8217;anglais &#171;&nbsp;shrinkflation&nbsp;&#187;) avant l&#8217;heure&nbsp;: m&#234;me aspect ext&#233;rieur, m&#234;me prix de vente mais moins d&#8217;or &#224; l&#8217;int&#233;rieur !</p><p><strong>5 &#8211;</strong> <strong>Les nouveaux crit&#232;res</strong></p><p>L&#8217;argument historique d&#233;voil&#233; au paragraphe pr&#233;c&#233;dent est d&#8217;une importance majeure mais il ne permet pas au numismate de distinguer une copie d&#8217;une frappe d&#8217;origine puisque l&#8217;aspect ext&#233;rieur est inchang&#233;. Pour parvenir &#224; ce but, il faut acc&#233;der &#224; la composition chimique des pi&#232;ces et examiner avec minutie certains &#233;l&#233;ments de gravure.</p><p><strong>La composition chimique</strong> est, de nos jours, avantageusement d&#233;termin&#233;e par la spectrom&#233;trie de fluorescence des rayons X. Il s&#8217;agit d&#8217;une technologie tr&#232;s pr&#233;cise et qui n&#8217;ab&#238;me pas les pi&#232;ces. En outre, l&#8217;examen ne dure que quelques secondes et peut &#234;tre r&#233;alis&#233; sur chaque face de la pi&#232;ce.</p><p>La spectrom&#233;trie est si fiable qu&#8217;elle peut &#234;tre consid&#233;r&#233;e comme l&#8217;actuel examen de r&#233;f&#233;rence non destructif ultime, l&#8217;&#233;quivalent du &#171;&nbsp;gold standard&nbsp;&#187; des auteurs anglo-saxons.</p><p>Il montre clairement que&nbsp;:</p><p>- les frappes d&#8217;origines ne comportent que deux m&#233;taux&nbsp;: de l&#8217;or (symbole chimique Au) et du cuivre (symbole chimique Cu). Depuis la loi du 17 germinal an XI, le titre droit de l&#8217;or est de 900 milli&#232;mes. Les 100 milli&#232;mes restants sont du cuivre.</p><p>Dans l&#8217;exemple ci-dessous, l&#8217;&#233;cran de gauche affiche 898 &#177; 6 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;or et 101 &#177; 2 milli&#232;mes de cuivre.</p><p>- les copies Pinay comportent trois m&#233;taux&nbsp;: de l&#8217;or, du cuivre et de l&#8217;argent (symbole chimique Ag).</p><p>Dans l&#8217;exemple ci-dessous, l&#8217;&#233;cran de droite montre 896 &#177; 6 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;or, 100 &#177; 2 milli&#232;mes de cuivre et 3 &#177; 1 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;argent.</p><p>La couleur rouge&#226;tre des copies est donc due &#224; cette composition chimique trim&#233;tallique (Au + Cu + Ag) et non uniquement &#224; une proportion plus &#233;lev&#233;e de cuivre.</p><p>Les photos d&#8217;&#233;crans ci-dessous illustrent les deux types de composition&nbsp;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>frappe d&#8217;origine&nbsp;: absence d&#8217;argent                  copie Pinay&nbsp;: pr&#233;sence de 2 &#224; 3 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;argent</em></p><p>On remarquera que cet examen spectrom&#233;trique donne des r&#233;sultats tout &#224; fait en accord avec les indications d&#233;voil&#233;es par l&#8217;archive historique de la Banque de France&nbsp;: 897 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;or fin par copie Pinay.</p><p><strong>L&#8217;examen des d&#233;tails de la gravure</strong> des pi&#232;ces apporte un autre lot de crit&#232;res discriminants. Les motifs les plus pertinents &#224; examiner sont&nbsp;:</p><p>- sur l&#8217;avers (face Marianne), le point situ&#233; apr&#232;s &#171;&nbsp;Fran&#231;aise&nbsp;&#187;&nbsp;;</p><p>- sur le revers (face coq), la plume surmontant la barre horizontale sup&#233;rieure du &#171;&nbsp;F&nbsp;&#187; de &#171;&nbsp;Fcs&nbsp;&#187;.</p><p>Comme d&#233;j&#224; publi&#233; en 2023 dans le <em>Bulletin numismatique</em><sup>[6] </sup>, le point situ&#233; apr&#232;s &#171;&nbsp;Fran&#231;aise&nbsp;&#187; (sur l&#8217;avers) est tant&#244;t carr&#233;, tant&#244;t rectangulaire.</p><p>Le point de forme rectangulaire n&#8217;&#233;tant observ&#233; que sur les pi&#232;ces affichant un mill&#233;sime compris entre 1907 et 1914, l&#8217;hypoth&#232;se &#233;mise est que&nbsp;le point rectangulaire est l&#8217;apanage des seules copies Pinay.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png" width="335" height="116" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:116,&quot;width&quot;:335,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:67655,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Ik_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F961213ac-9c4a-4c3b-ac29-f771a8863720_335x116.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p><em>                             A gauche : frappe d&#8217;origine. A droite : copie Pinay</em></p></li></ul><p>Depuis la parution de l&#8217;article cit&#233;, il est apparu que si effectivement 100&nbsp;% des pi&#232;ces &#224; point rectangulaire sont des copies Pinay, l&#8217;inverse n&#8217;est pas toujours vrai. Il a en effet &#233;t&#233; d&#233;couvert un petit contingent de copies Pinay pr&#233;sentant un point de forme carr&#233;e ( environ 5&nbsp;% des copies).</p><p>Dans ce cas particulier et assur&#233;ment peu fr&#233;quent, c&#8217;est l&#8217;examen spectrom&#233;trique qui permet de redresser le diagnostic en montrant la pr&#233;sence de quelques milli&#232;mes d&#8217;argent.</p><p>Pour r&#233;sumer, toutes les pi&#232;ces qui pr&#233;sentent un point rectangulaire sont bien des copies Pinay mais l&#8217;inverse n&#8217;est pas vrai&nbsp;puisque 95&nbsp;% des copies ont un point rectangulaire et 5&nbsp;% un point carr&#233;.</p><p>Dans un autre num&#233;ro de 2023 du <em>Bulletin numismatique</em><sup>[7]</sup><em>,</em> il &#233;tait abord&#233; la vari&#233;t&#233; &#171;&nbsp;longue queue&nbsp;&#187; int&#233;ressant cette fois le revers des pi&#232;ces (face coq).</p><p>Cette vari&#233;t&#233; peut rev&#234;tir quatre formes en fonction de la longueur de la plume qui d&#233;passe le &#171;&nbsp;F&nbsp;&#187; de &#171;&nbsp;Fcs&nbsp;&#187;&nbsp;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png" width="416" height="168" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:168,&quot;width&quot;:416,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:109358,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kbRa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425424a5-2007-47ba-9501-7d5e0597f691_416x168.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p><em>                   queue normale, longue queue courte, longue queue, tr&#232;s longue queue</em></p></li></ul><p>Dans l&#8217;article, il &#233;tait notamment rapport&#233; que les copies Pinay pr&#233;sentent la forme la plus courte de la vari&#233;t&#233;.</p><p>Quant aux frappes d&#8217;origine, 95&nbsp;% pr&#233;sentent une queue de longueur normale (donc aucun d&#233;passement) et les 5&nbsp;% restants pr&#233;sentent l&#8217;une des trois formes de la vari&#233;t&#233; (courte, longue ou tr&#232;s longue) .</p><p>Pour &#234;tre complet, il faut &#233;galement rappeler le cas tr&#232;s particulier des pi&#232;ces mill&#233;sim&#233;es 1899 lesquelles arborent toutes sans exception la forme la plus longue de la vari&#233;t&#233;. Mais, avec un tel mill&#233;sime, il ne peut bien entendu &#234;tre question d&#8217;une copie Pinay.</p><p>Au terme de ce paragraphe d&#233;di&#233; aux crit&#232;res de gravure, voici les deux combinaisons qui sont statistiquement, et de loin, les plus fr&#233;quemment rencontr&#233;es par le numismate&nbsp;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png" width="464" height="349" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:349,&quot;width&quot;:464,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:113977,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bw-B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1aa6a82-739c-42dd-bf52-dd647b7abab1_464x349.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>6 &#8211;</strong> <strong>Arbre de d&#233;cision</strong></p><p>Apr&#232;s avoir pass&#233; en revue les crit&#232;res discriminants actuellement connus, on peut dresser un arbre d&#233;cisionnel permettant de distinguer les copies Pinay des frappes d&#8217;origine.</p><p>Il comporte trois zones&nbsp;:</p><p>- une zone rose de certitude en faveur des copies Pinay&nbsp;;</p><p>- une zone grise dans laquelle il y a une incertitude et comment la lever&nbsp;;</p><p>- une zone jaune de certitude en faveur des frappes d&#8217;origine.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png" width="715" height="221" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/efbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:221,&quot;width&quot;:715,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:34714,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BagC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefbab05d-d10d-406e-b162-e90faa3b0401_715x221.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>In fine</em>, on constate que, au moindre doute, l&#8217;examen de r&#233;f&#233;rence ultime est la spectrom&#233;trie X.</p><p><strong>7 &#8211;</strong> <strong>Conclusion</strong></p><p>Apr&#232;s plusieurs d&#233;cennies d&#8217;incertitudes, de nouveaux crit&#232;res discriminants objectifs permettent d&#233;sormais de distinguer de fa&#231;on fiable les frappes d&#8217;origine de la pi&#232;ce de 20 francs or Marianne Coq de leurs copies Pinay.</p><p>Parmi ces nouveaux crit&#232;res, ceux qui ont radicalement chang&#233; la donne sont&nbsp;:</p><p>- la d&#233;couverte dans les archives de la Banque de France d&#8217;un document r&#233;v&#233;lant que les copies Pinay ne contiennent que 5,789 g d&#8217;or fin chacune ce qui correspond &#224; un titre de 897,3 milli&#232;mes. Les 2,7 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;or manquants (pour atteindre le titre l&#233;gal de 900) sont remplac&#233;s par de l&#8217;argent&nbsp;;</p><p>- l&#8217;examen par spectrom&#233;trie X qui montre que les frappes d&#8217;origine sont bim&#233;talliques (Au-Cu) alors que les copies Pinay sont trim&#233;talliques (Au-Cu-Ag) puisque contenant toutes 2 &#224; 3 milli&#232;mes d&#8217;argent. Cet examen non destructif a une telle fiabilit&#233; qu&#8217;il peut &#234;tre consid&#233;r&#233; comme l&#8217;actuel examen de r&#233;f&#233;rence (&#171;&nbsp;gold standard&nbsp;&#187;).</p><p>Un arbre de d&#233;cision est propos&#233; pour faciliter la d&#233;marche diagnostique. Sa limite est qu&#8217;il n&#8217;est applicable qu&#8217;aux pi&#232;ces authentiques, non contrefaites.</p><p>La caract&#233;risation des copies Pinay entra&#238;ne plusieurs cons&#233;quences pratiques parmi lesquelles&nbsp;:</p><p>- la r&#233;-affirmation qu&#8217;elles ne sont que des reproductions d&#233;pourvues d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t numismatique&nbsp;;</p><p>- la remise en cause de leur statut d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement car ce ne sont ni des monnaies ayant eu cours l&#233;gal ni des monnaies d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es mais de simples copies (cf. CGI article 298 sexdecies A &#8211; paragraphe 2-b)<sup>[8]</sup>. En 1951&nbsp;, le Ministre des Finances de l&#8217;&#233;poque (Ren&#233; Mayer) qui avait ordonn&#233; leur fabrication, a m&#234;me admis par &#233;crit qu&#8217;elles &#171;&nbsp;<em>&#8230;/... peuvent &#234;tre assimil&#233;es, depuis la loi mon&#233;taire du 25 juin 1928, &#224; des m&#233;dailles ou plut&#244;t &#224; des lingots .../...</em>&nbsp;&#187;<sup>[11]</sup>. En outre, comme elles ne titrent pas le minimum de 995 milli&#232;mes, elles ne peuvent pas &#234;tre consid&#233;r&#233;es comme des plaquettes d&#8217;or d&#8217;investissement (cf. CGI article 298 sexdecies A &#8211; paragraphe 2-a)<sup>[8]</sup>. En toute logique, elles ne peuvent donc pas b&#233;n&#233;ficier de l&#8217;exemption de la TVA &#224; l&#8217;achat.</p><p>Les ventes par des professionnels sont d&#232;s lors soumises &#224; la TVA sur la marge des produits d&#8217;occasion<sup>[9] </sup>.</p><p>Quant aux ventes par des particuliers, elles sont exon&#233;r&#233;es de taxe jusqu&#8217;&#224; 5&nbsp;000&nbsp;&#8364; de cession, et, au del&#224; de ce seuil, soumises &#224; la taxe forfaitaire (cf. CGI article 150 VI - I-2&#176;)<sup>[10]</sup> au titre de la cat&#233;gorie fiscale des &#171;&nbsp;bijoux et assimil&#233;s&nbsp;&#187;.</p><p><strong>Jean-Luc GRIPPARI</strong></p><p>Remerciements&nbsp;:</p><p>L&#8217;auteur tient &#224; remercier chaleureusement Monsieur Charles DE LANGHE, responsable de l&#8217;agence brestoise de la soci&#233;t&#233; GODOT &amp; FILS, sans qui les examens spectrom&#233;triques de cet article n&#8217;auraient pas pu &#234;tre r&#233;alis&#233;s.</p><p>R&#233;f&#233;rences bibliographiques&nbsp;:</p><p><sup>[1]</sup> &#171;&nbsp;<em>Rules and Regulations under the Hobby Protection Act&nbsp;</em>&#187;, Code Of Federal Regulation, Title 16, Chapter I, Subchapter C, part 304.</p><p><a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-16/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-304">https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-16/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-304</a></p><p><sup>[2]</sup> &#171;&nbsp;<em>Mouvements de l&#8217;or en 1956&nbsp;</em>&#187;, Service du Patrimoine historique et des archives (Banque de France).</p><p><sup>[3]</sup> &#171;&nbsp;<em>L&#8217;Or des Fran&#231;ais</em>&nbsp;&#187;, Yannick COLLEU, &#233;ditions BoD, 2024</p><p><a href="https://librairie.bod.fr/lor-des-francais-yannick-colleu-9782322541430">https://librairie.bod.fr/lor-des-francais-yannick-colleu-9782322541430</a></p><p><sup>[4]</sup> &#171;&nbsp;<em>Pi&#232;ces 20 francs Napol&#233;on jetons&nbsp;: r&#233;v&#233;lations sur les copies Pinay</em>&nbsp;&#187;, Yannick COLLEU, d&#233;cembre 2023.</p><p><a href="https://www.loretlargent.info/aucoffre/napoleons-revelations-sur-les-refrappes-pinay/30999/">https://www.loretlargent.info/aucoffre/napoleons-revelations-sur-les-copies-pinay/30999/</a></p><p><sup>[5]</sup> <a href="https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/lor-des-francais">https://aurumetplus.substack.com/p/lor-des-francais</a></p><p><sup>[6] </sup>&#171;&nbsp;<em>20 francs or Marianne Coq&nbsp;: si ce n&#8217;est point carr&#233;, c&#8217;est donc Pinay&nbsp;?</em>&nbsp;&#187;, Jean-Luc GRIPPARI, Bulletin Numismatique n&#176;235, pages 38-39.</p><p><a href="https://flips.cgb.fr/bn235/38/">https://flips.cgb.fr/bn235/38/</a></p><p><sup>[7] </sup>&#171;&nbsp;<em>20 francs or Marianne Coq&nbsp;: &#224; propos de la vari&#233;t&#233; longue queue&nbsp;&#187;</em>, Jean-Luc GRIPPARI, Bulletin Numismatique n&#176;234, pages 50-51.</p><p><a href="https://flips.cgb.fr/bn234/50/">https://flips.cgb.fr/bn234/50/</a></p><p><sup>[8] </sup>Code G&#233;n&#233;ral des Imp&#244;ts</p><p><a href="https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006304536/2000-03-31">https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006304536/2000-03-31</a></p><p>et BOFIP</p><p><a href="https://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/2061-PGP.html/identifiant%3DBOI-TVA-SECT-30-10-20220216">https://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/2061-PGP.html/identifiant%3DBOI-TVA-SECT-30-10-20220216</a></p><p><sup>[9] </sup>D&#233;cret n&#176;95-172 du 17 f&#233;vrier 1995 relatif &#224; la d&#233;finition des biens d'occasion, des &#339;uvres d'art, des objets de collection et d'antiquit&#233; pour l'application des dispositions relatives &#224; la TVA</p><p><a href="https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/loda/id/LEGITEXT000005617822">https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/loda/id/LEGITEXT000005617822</a></p><p><sup>[10] </sup>BOFIP</p><p><a href="https://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/4151-PGP.html/identifiant%3DBOI-RPPM-PVBMC-20-10-20181231">https://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/4151-PGP.html/identifiant%3DBOI-RPPM-PVBMC-20-10-20181231</a></p><p>et</p><p><a href="https://www.economie.gouv.fr/particuliers/vente-objet-precieux-fiscalite-taxe">https://www.economie.gouv.fr/particuliers/vente-objet-precieux-fiscalite-taxe</a>#</p><p><sup>[11] </sup>Lettre reproduite <em>in extenso</em> dans le Proc&#232;s-verbal du Conseil G&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque de France, s&#233;ance du 2 novembre 1951</p><p><a 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SUR L'OR DES FRAN&#199;AIS ... avec Yannick Colleu</p><div id="youtube2-buOigJ1VzDY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;buOigJ1VzDY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;18s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/buOigJ1VzDY?start=18s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div><hr></div><p>Publi&#233; ce jour (9 septembre 2024) sur <a href="https://la-chronique-agora.com/3-000-tonnes-or-epargne-francais/">La Chronique Agora</a></p><h1>3 000 Tonnes d&#8217;or ? La v&#233;rit&#233; derri&#232;re l&#8217;&#233;pargne des Fran&#231;ais</h1><p>r&#233;dig&#233; par <a href="https://la-chronique-agora.com/author/yannickcolleu/">yannickcolleu</a> 9 septembre 2024</p><p><em>Longtemps consid&#233;r&#233;e comme un tr&#233;sor national, l&#8217;&#233;pargne en or des Fran&#231;ais est entour&#233;e de mythes.</em></p><p>Il fut une &#233;poque o&#249; cette simple phrase permettait de clore un diff&#233;rend : <em>&#171;&nbsp;Je l&#8217;ai vu &#224; la t&#233;l&#233; !&nbsp;&#187;</em></p><p>Tout le monde sait que de nos jours, il ne serait pas concevable d&#8217;&#233;tendre cette r&#233;ponse aux r&#233;seaux dits sociaux tant ce qui s&#8217;y dit est peu fiable. En revanche, si je vous propose que, pour nous mettre d&#8217;accord, nous nous adressions &#224; ChatGPT ou je ne sais quel autre andro&#239;de bavard, je suis certain que vous accorderez &#224; cette &#171;&nbsp;chose&nbsp;&#187; un privil&#232;ge d&#8217;arbitre.</p><p>Je m&#8217;int&#233;resse &#224; l&#8217;&#233;pargne en m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux depuis l&#8217;&#233;clatement de la bulle Internet. Depuis cet &#233;v&#233;nement, je ne compte plus les articles qui sont parus dans la presse financi&#232;re ou g&#233;n&#233;raliste pr&#233;sentant les Fran&#231;ais comme les champions du monde de l&#8217;&#233;pargne en or &#8211; totalisant une fois 3&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes, une autre fois 5&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes, dont les deux tiers auraient &#233;t&#233; constitu&#233;s de monnaies d&#8217;or h&#233;rit&#233;es de la belle &#233;poque de Napol&#233;on&nbsp;III et de la IIIe&nbsp;R&#233;publique.</p><p>&#201;tant un peu lent &#224; comprendre de nature, je n&#8217;ai r&#233;alis&#233; que r&#233;cemment que, d&#8217;ann&#233;e en ann&#233;e, les m&#234;mes chiffres &#233;taient donn&#233;s dans ces marronniers alors que le World Gold Council, une autorit&#233; &#233;tablissant des statistiques au niveau mondial sur l&#8217;investissement en or, d&#233;voilait que le solde des transactions de l&#8217;&#233;pargne en or d&#8217;investissement des Fran&#231;ais &#233;tait majoritairement n&#233;gatif (sur la seule p&#233;riode allant de 1992 &#224; 2023, ceci repr&#233;sente un d&#233;ficit cumul&#233; d&#8217;environ 420&nbsp;tonnes de pi&#232;ces et lingots d&#8217;or).</p><p>La presse nous ment donc chaque ann&#233;e, mais <em>quid</em> de ChatGPT&nbsp;? Tout le monde nous vend l&#8217;omniscience de l&#8217;andro&#239;de bavard, il est donc logique de se tourner vers cette pythie num&#233;rique pour obtenir une r&#233;ponse. Voici ce qu&#8217;elle m&#8217;a r&#233;pondu&nbsp;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png" width="792" height="523" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:523,&quot;width&quot;:792,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6wjw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9ae767-71fb-4ed4-b7c7-7ae61abbc2bd_792x523.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>J&#8217;ai alors compris deux choses.</p><p>La premi&#232;re que ChatGPT n&#8217;a pas plus d&#8217;intelligence qu&#8217;un r&#233;pondeur t&#233;l&#233;phonique ou qu&#8217;un cacato&#232;s bien dress&#233; (r&#233;sum&#233; en anglais par&nbsp;: <em>garbage</em> IN/ <em>garbage</em> OUT). La seconde est que si je voulais en savoir plus, il fallait que je m&#8217;y colle.</p><p>C&#8217;est donc ainsi qu&#8217;est n&#233;e cette qu&#234;te du Graal en 2022, cette investigation sur le montant de l&#8217;&#233;pargne or des Fran&#231;ais.</p><p>De prime abord, le d&#233;fi ne semblait pas tr&#232;s difficile &#224; relever.</p><p>En effet, &#233;valuer le volume d&#8217;or monnay&#233; (le seul qui puisse l&#8217;&#234;tre) en 2024 revient &#224; faire une simple soustraction&nbsp;: cumul des &#233;missions diminu&#233; du cumul des d&#233;mon&#233;tisations. Ces &#233;l&#233;ments ont &#233;t&#233; ais&#233;ment trouv&#233;s en acc&#233;dant aux archives de la Banque de France et du minist&#232;re de l&#8217;&#201;conomie et des Finances.</p><p>N&#233;anmoins, il faut aussi prendre en compte l&#8217;usure des monnaies, le frai, qui les condamne &#224; la fonte. Il ne faut pas non plus oublier les guerres que les Fran&#231;ais ont subies et le soutien financier qu&#8217;ils ont apport&#233; &#224; la d&#233;fense, les confiscations de l&#8217;occupant, les pertes diverses dont l&#8217;exportation, etc.</p><p>Certains de ces &#233;v&#233;nements sont document&#233;s. Malheureusement, ils ne le sont que pour une minorit&#233;.</p><p>Les guerres ont pr&#233;lev&#233; un montant consid&#233;rable d&#8217;or sur cette &#233;pargne. Sur les 3&nbsp;526&nbsp;tonnes d&#8217;or mon&#233;taire mises en circulation, les guerres n&#8217;en ont laiss&#233; que 60%. Les ponctions sur l&#8217;&#233;pargne des Fran&#231;ais et les pertes diverses ont encore accru consid&#233;rablement la perte.</p><p>Finalement, il resterait en 2024, au mieux, entre 600 &#224; 700&nbsp;tonnes d&#8217;or des monnaies fran&#231;aises (et 122&nbsp;tonnes &#224; la Banque de France) et 15 &#224; 20&nbsp;tonnes d&#8217;or sous la forme de monnaies &#233;trang&#232;res (et 60&nbsp;tonnes &#224; la Banque de France). Cela repr&#233;sente une perte moyenne de plus de 80% de l&#8217;ensemble des pi&#232;ces fran&#231;aises (3&nbsp;526&nbsp;tonnes de pi&#232;ces monnay&#233;es et 218&nbsp;tonnes de jetons &#233;mis de 1951 &#224; 1960, soit au total 3&nbsp;744&nbsp;tonnes).</p><p>Certes, 700&nbsp;tonnes d&#8217;or, ce n&#8217;est pas 3&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes, mais ce n&#8217;est pas insignifiant non plus. Ceci repr&#233;sente environ 120&nbsp;millions de pi&#232;ces de 20&nbsp;francs germinal en or sur les 696&nbsp;millions de pi&#232;ces de 5 &#224; 100&nbsp;francs frapp&#233;es de 1803 &#224; 1960.</p><p>Pour donner un ordre de grandeur, ces 700 tonnes, c&#8217;est un peu moins du cumul du volume d&#8217;or des pi&#232;ces am&#233;ricaines Gold Eagle frapp&#233;es depuis 1986 (885 tonnes d&#8217;or) et un peu plus de celui des pi&#232;ces d&#8217;or chinoises Panda frapp&#233;es depuis 1982 (680 tonnes).</p><p>En tout &#233;tat de cause, ce r&#233;sultat exclut de continuer &#224; entretenir la fable des 3&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes, et encore moins de celle des 5&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes d&#8217;or.</p><p>Cette enqu&#234;te passionnante m&#8217;a conduit &#224; faire plusieurs d&#233;couvertes &#233;tonnantes.</p><p>Dans le cadre de cette fable des 3&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes, il est de coutume de vanter les exploits des Fran&#231;ais en mati&#232;re d&#8217;&#233;pargne or. En avan&#231;ant, par exemple, que ceux-ci d&#233;tenaient <em>&#171;&nbsp;20% du stock mondial d&#8217;or th&#233;sauris&#233;&#171;&nbsp;</em>. Cette affirmation a &#233;t&#233; reprise par plusieurs auteurs depuis la fin du XIXe&nbsp;si&#232;cle et fait partie int&#233;grante de la fable dans ce si&#232;cle.</p><p>En fait, s&#8217;agissant des &#233;missions de monnaies d&#8217;or fran&#231;aises, un ancien directeur de l&#8217;Administration des Monnaies et M&#233;dailles (Alfred de Foville) &#233;crivait en f&#233;vrier 1898 dans son rapport annuel&nbsp;: <em>&#171;&nbsp;Nos quatre milliards d&#8217;or monnay&#233; font presque la cinqui&#232;me partie du stock total des deux mondes et c&#8217;est l&#224;, ce nous semble, une constatation qu&#8217;il n&#8217;&#233;tait pas superflu de bien mettre en lumi&#232;re.&nbsp;&#187;</em></p><p>Avec les ann&#233;es et une lecture approximative, ces 20% de l&#8217;or monnay&#233; dans le monde (soit la masse mon&#233;taire m&#233;tallique or) se sont transform&#233;s en 20% de l&#8217;&#233;pargne th&#233;sauris&#233;e dans le monde. Les perroquets ont repris ann&#233;e apr&#232;s ann&#233;e la formule d&#233;form&#233;e, et c&#8217;est ainsi qu&#8217;elle est entr&#233;e dans la fable.</p><p>Lorsqu&#8217;on soul&#232;ve le voile, on d&#233;couvre que le march&#233; de l&#8217;or fran&#231;ais n&#8217;est plus depuis bien longtemps que l&#8217;ombre de lui-m&#234;me. Trop longtemps soumis au contr&#244;le des changes et r&#233;gul&#233; par une poign&#233;e de commer&#231;ants, le march&#233; fran&#231;ais est p&#233;tri de vieux principes et tourne autour de m&#233;thodes h&#233;rit&#233;es d&#8217;un ancien temps qui ont &#233;t&#233; toutes r&#233;voqu&#233;es en 2004, mais que certains s&#8217;&#233;vertuent &#224; maintenir pour faire croire au public qu&#8217;ils en assurent encore le contr&#244;le.</p><p>L&#8217;autre d&#233;couverte vaut son pesant d&#8217;or. En mati&#232;re de fraude, le commun des mortels a une id&#233;e assez pr&#233;cise du profil des fraudeurs. De la m&#234;me fa&#231;on, ce commun des mortels n&#8217;oserait, un seul instant, envisager que l&#8217;Etat puisse se lancer dans des manipulations coupables touchant la monnaie.</p><p>Pourtant de 1951 &#224; 1960, le ministre des Finances a fait fabriquer par l&#8217;Administration des Monnaies des copies parfaites (en v&#233;rit&#233; pas totalement&nbsp;!) des monnaies d&#8217;or de 20&nbsp;francs d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;es en 1926 pour &#234;tre utilis&#233;es &#224; des fins de r&#233;gulation (pour ne pas &#233;crire de manipulation) du march&#233; de l&#8217;or par le Fonds de stabilisation des changes (d&#233;pendant du Tr&#233;sor, mais op&#233;r&#233; par la Banque de France).</p><p>Ces pi&#232;ces, ou plut&#244;t jetons puisqu&#8217;aucun acte l&#233;gal ne leur a donn&#233; droit d&#8217;existence, sont en tout point semblables aux mod&#232;les authentiques frapp&#233;s de 1907 &#224; 1914, et portent d&#8217;ailleurs les mill&#233;simes de ces originaux de fa&#231;on &#224; mieux tromper le chaland. De nos jours, la copie de monnaie d&#233;mon&#233;tis&#233;e est un d&#233;lit <a href="https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006418780">selon l&#8217;article 442-3 du Code p&#233;nal</a>.</p><p>Outre les deux autorit&#233;s cit&#233;es plus haut, ces copies ont &#233;t&#233; r&#233;alis&#233;es avec l&#8217;aval de la Banque de France et du pr&#233;sident de la R&#233;publique. Les archives des minutes des r&#233;unions r&#233;v&#232;lent aussi qu&#8217;au sein du Conseil g&#233;n&#233;ral de la Banque, certains administrateurs &#233;taient plus que r&#233;ticents et qu&#8217;une note de l&#8217;Administration des Monnaies mettait en garde la direction quant &#224; l&#8217;ill&#233;galit&#233; de la d&#233;marche, allant jusqu&#8217;&#224; sugg&#233;rer de passer sous silence l&#8217;existence de ces copies (ce qui fut fait dans les rapports annuels de 1951 &#224; 1960, n&#233;anmoins, les archives de la comptabilit&#233; mettent au jour la forfaiture).</p><p>Cerise sur le g&#226;teau&nbsp;: ces copies ne sont pas identiques aux originaux. En effet, comme le r&#233;v&#232;le un document trouv&#233; encore dans les archives de la Banque, ces pi&#232;ces ont une teneur en or inf&#233;rieur au titre officiel d&#8217;or de 900&nbsp;milli&#232;mes (exactement 897,3&nbsp;milli&#232;mes). En d&#8217;autres termes, pendant plusieurs d&#233;cennies, les Fran&#231;ais &#8211; croyant acheter des monnaies d&#8217;or au titre garanti par l&#8217;effigie des pi&#232;ces, faisant office de sceau l&#233;gal &#8211; ont &#233;t&#233; l&#233;s&#233;s de plus de 654&nbsp;kg d&#8217;or fin par l&#8217;&#201;tat.</p><p>Enfin, la derni&#232;re trouvaille dans ces archives&#8230; Il s&#8217;agit de la c&#233;l&#232;bre et presque mythique monnaie de 100 francs Bazor frapp&#233;es de 1929 &#224; 1936 &#224; pr&#232;s de 14 millions d&#8217;exemplaires. Sa cr&#233;ation a &#233;t&#233; ordonn&#233;e par la loi mon&#233;taire de 1928. Mais ces pi&#232;ces n&#8217;ont jamais quitt&#233; les coffres de la Banque de France. Leur d&#233;mon&#233;tisation pour &#234;tre fondues a &#233;t&#233; ordonn&#233;e le 26 septembre 1936. La Banque en conservait toutefois 190 000 exemplaires selon un inventaire d&#233;taill&#233; de 1960. Tout porte &#224; croire que ce nombre n&#8217;a pas chang&#233; depuis. Ces pi&#232;ces n&#8217;ayant jamais &#233;t&#233; mises en circulation, comment ne pas s&#8217;&#233;tonner d&#8217;en voir ainsi circuler dans les mains de collectionneurs.</p><p>Ce nouvel ouvrage n&#8217;a rien en commun &#8211; sinon ce m&#233;tal jaune qui fait r&#234;ver beaucoup de gens &#8211; avec mes trois pr&#233;c&#233;dentes publications<a href="https://la-chronique-agora.com/3-000-tonnes-or-epargne-francais/#_ftn1">[1]</a>, qui &#233;taient plut&#244;t des guides, des modes d&#8217;emploi pour approcher l&#8217;investissement et l&#8217;&#233;pargne en m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux.</p><p>Avec ce dernier, j&#8217;ai d&#233;couvert un monde nouveau, celui des archives. Un monde o&#249; il me semblait lire par-dessus l&#8217;&#233;paule de nos anc&#234;tres, un monde qui m&#8217;a plong&#233; dans l&#8217;Histoire de France et m&#8217;a ainsi permis de d&#233;monter cette fable s&#233;culaire des 3&nbsp;000&nbsp;tonnes d&#8217;or que d&#233;tiendraient les Fran&#231;ais.</p><p>Le livre de Yannick Colleu sera disponible d&#232;s le 18 septembre en librairie.</p><p><a href="https://la-chronique-agora.com/3-000-tonnes-or-epargne-francais/#_ftnref1">[1]</a> <em>Guide d&#8217;investissement sur le march&#233; de l&#8217;or</em> aux &#201;ditions Gualino (2008), <em>Fiscalit&#233; des m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux</em> aux &#233;ditions L&#8217;Alambic (2012) et <em>Investir dans les m&#233;taux pr&#233;cieux: Le guide pratique complet</em> chez Eyrolles (2014).</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://aurumetplus.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;S'abonner&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;fr&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">&#8212;Si vous souhaitez vous abonner aux publications de Aurum et cetera :</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Tapez votre e-mail&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="S'abonner"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>